Re: Major changes in the IHL « Result #2 Today at 4:49pm »
I think at this time it is obvious who really was into the league and who was not. I agree with what Rob did and there are others who need the same. I have been on the wrong end a few times and the amount of hours put into a team behind the scenes is what can be the disappointing part of it.
Here is what I suggest, WIll or Rob, have a chat with each other, be civil, see what can be worked out and do what is right for the league. I for one believe that if he is this disgruntled in the firing then it is obvious he is into the league.
HEY!! what you do with that ass-cleanched, prune juice drinking sack of dust from Mexico??!! It must have been the pictures of the girls that were posted a while ago. Keep them coming I think Vern is finally becoming somewhat human, LOL. Or maybe it's simply that his team is finally winning.
No. I am the same asshole that I have always been. However, I do get an occasional outburst of logic that makes me seem rational. It's just an illusion.
It would be nice if this league could run by committee, but I think we are a long was from that. In the meantime, I think we have a good forum in this discussion board where everyone (regardless of being B.O.D., veteran GM or newbie GM's) can express an opinion.
It takes 10 damn minutes or less to submit new lines. It takes two minutes to check scores and your schedule. It takes 60 seconds or less to log in and check messages. This is not a major sacrifice.
And I am tired of hearing about people claiming, "I have a life." Joining the league takes commitment. Period. You can't meet it? Then quit or get bounced.
Be happy that we've got Robert. If it were me, I'd require lines for every game and log-ins to the portal at least every time before your next scheduled game. Messages and articles are bonuses, but responding to emails and trade offers are a must.
Again, people need to accept responsibility or get out. The only suggestion I might make is to be sure that newbies clearly know the requirements and expectations before they join, and that they know what actions (or lack of action) will lead to expulsion. Then Robert can bounce anyone who fails to meet the requirements.
I can't believe I'm going to say this but.............. I agree with everything Vern has said here......... HEY!! what you do with that ass-cleanched, prune juice drinking sack of dust from Mexico??!! It must have been the pictures of the girls that were posted a while ago. Keep them coming I think Vern is finally becoming somewhat human, LOL. Or maybe it's simply that his team is finally winning.
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Saturday Update for Dec.5/09.... « Result #5 Today at 11:18am »
Maple Leafs (8) @ (6) Flyers............. The Leafs exacted a small amount of revenge for a loss earlier in the season against the Flyers as they beat them 8-6 in a rough one at Wachovia Center. The game featured a line brawl in the first period in which the main combatants were Paul Gaustad and Mike Komisarek fighting to a draw. Yes there was scoring lots of it. Corey Perry and rookie Steven Stamkos each had four points for Toronto, while Jeff Carter scored a hat-trick including his league leading 20th of the season in a losing cause for Philly. The defensive pairing of Cam Barker and Braydon Coburn were a combined - 11 on the night for the Flyers.
Devils (3) @ (0) Blue Jackets......... Two goals in twenty-one seconds midway through the third period, one in which New Jersey out-shot the 'Jackets 17-5, was the difference in this game for the Devils. Ilya "Breezy" Bryzgalov is 4-1 in five games since coming over in a block-buster deal for Martin Brodeur stopped all twenty shots he faced for the shut-out.Defenseman Kim Johnson and Zach Parise had a goal and an assist each to lead the way for the Devils.
Panthers (2) @ (3) Kings....... Keith Tkachuk's short-handed goal halfway through the second would end up being the deciding goal of the game as LA would squeek out a one goal win at home vs the Panthers. After each team scored twice in the first period..... three of which were scored in a 4:50 span, the teams seemed to settle down defensively after that. The Panthers managed only two shots in the third period, they also faultered on the powerplay going 1 for 6 with the extra man. Dustin Penner and Sergei Zubov each had a goal and an assist for the Kings while goaltender Alex Auld won his first game of the year.
Minnesota (3) @ Ottawa (2) ....... Paul Szczechura's first goal of his IHL career early in the third period was the winner for the Wild. Alex Tanguay with his 12th and 13th of the season staked the Wild to a 2-0 lead after one, Mark Recchi scored two for Ottawa to get the Sens withing one but that would be as close as they would get. Nik Backstrom got the win (his 5th) in his 17th starts for Minny.
Blackhawks (6) @ (3) Hurricanes........... The Blackhawks held Carolina to just ten shots all game but it took a two goal second period for the 'Hawks to put any room between themselves and the 'Canes. Ex-Hawk Tuomo Ruutu got Carolina within two goals early in the third on their only shot of the period but rookie Kris Versteeg restored Chicago's three goal lead with his second of the game eight minutes later, in fact Versteeg had his best game as a Blackhawk with a five point night (2-3-5), Jonathan Toews had two goals and an assist also for Chicago.
Predators (3) @ (6) Vancouver........... Vancouver scored three times in the second period including two on the powerplay to blow the game wide open and erase an early 2-1 lead the Preds had after the first period. The Canucks had six different goal scorers with David Bolland and Mikeal Samuelsson leading the way for Vancouver with a goal and an assist. Nikolai Zherdev had a goal and an assist for the Preds while defenseman Shea Weber fought twice in the third period earning a draw in each.
Red Wings (3) @ (0) Bruins......... The Bruins continued their slide with a 3-0 blanking at the hands of the Wings. Detroit scored all their goals in the first period on just six shots. Roberto Luongo stopped 22 shots for Detroit for his 3rd shut-out of the season.Scott Neidermayer had a goal and a helper to lead the Wings. Bruins goalie Chris Mason did what he could do to keep his team in it as he stopped 19 of 22 shots. Sergei Federov had a team high five shots on net but couldn't get one by "Bobby Luo"
Blues (1) @ (5) Sharks......... Joe Sakic and Daniel Alfredsson scored powerplay goals in the first period to help put the Sharks up 3-0 after one. The Blues got one back in the second, but Alfredsson's second of the game in the third (his 16th) was the final straw. Sakic had a pair of helpers to add to his first period tally to lead all players in the game with three points. Mikka Kiprusoff won his 20th of the season to take over the league lead.
Canadiens (2) @ (3) Penguins (S/O)........... Saku Koivu in the first and Mark Streit in the second had Montreal up 2-1 after two but Max Talbot with his second of the game and 5th of the year tied the game early in the third. The Pens out-shot the Habs 3-0 in OT but couldn't beat Carey Price so was onto the always exciting shoot out. Dany Heatley scored the only goal of the shoot out with a nasty backhand drag move that baffled Price to win it for Pittsburgh.
Oilers (3) @ (4) Rangers (S/0)......... This game featured two of the IHL's top teams and the Rangers had the home town crowd in a frenzy after the first as they skated off leading the Oil 2-1. The Oilers quickly silenced the crowd in the second as Shawn Horcoff scored a pair of tallies including a powerplay goal with Oli Jokinen in the sin bin for roughing. The Rangers drew even when Ryan Callahan scored on the powerplay before the halfway mark of the third to send this game to OT, bringing Madison Square faithful to their feet once again. Nothing was settled in OT and the S/O went seven rounds before Mike Knuble would win it for the Blueshirts after Henrik Lundqvist stoned Oiler's Dan Boyle.
Sabres (1) @ (4) Ducks........... The Ducks put this game pretty much out of reach after the first period as they scored four times including a team record three times on the powerplay. The Sabres erased any chance of Chris Osgood collecting his second shut-out of the season when Michal Handzus blew a slapper past a screened Osgood off a face-off at the midway point of the period. Brenden Morrow had a pair of helpers in the win.
Avalanche (1) @ (4) Stars........ Sidney Crosby and Christoph Schubert exchanged goals in the first but it was a two goal third that was the difference for the Stars as they improved their home ice record to 11-3-2. Crosby, Jerome Iginla and Steve Ott all registered a goal and a helper for the Stars. The news got worse for the Avs as defenseman David Hale was helped off the ice at the 14:41 mark of the first period with what is believed to be slight sprain to his left ankle after x-rays proved to be negative, he could be out up to a week and the Avs defense crp was further thinned when Mathieu Schneider was ejected in the second for a hit from behind on Star's Ott. Schneider could face further disciplinary action if the game tape is sent to the league for a review.
Tigers (0) @ Lightning (1)............. This tight checking (a.k.a, snooze-fest) game was settled early in the third period on the powerplay as Mike Peca collected the puck at the side of the net after his original shot was tipped wide by a teammate and lifted it over a sprawled Kari Lehtonen. Rookie Dane Crowley of the Lightning was eject in the first period for his hit from behind on the Tiger's Dainus Zubrus and could face Commissioner Blouin on Monday morning for further punishment. Vesa Toskala registered his first shut-out of the season and his 5th win in eighteen starts with the victory.
Re: Major changes in the IHL « Result #6 Today at 9:23am »
If you would of just PM'ed me or such about my lines and such then I would of made sure to be more active but to just come on here and not talk in person to say to me was an act of poor judgement.
All I would of asked was for Rob to send me a message if he had a problem with my activity and I would of fixed it.
Well, it appears that I have been left hanging dry, after all I did to get my team the way it was and up to just hours before being fired as GM I was working on trades for my team. This all sucks ass for me I guess.
Re: Major changes in the IHL « Result #7 Today at 9:20am »
I was on the Portal today and saw alot of teams that were doing alot worst then I was, yet I seemed to be one of a few that got picked out to be made an example of....I think that Rob's choice was a little premature and if he had had such a huge problem he should of taken it up with the people personally before deciding to cut them as GM's.
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Re: Major changes in the IHL « Result #8 Today at 8:37am »
Just my thoughts ...
It would be nice if this league could run by committee, but I think we are a long was from that. In the meantime, I think we have a good forum in this discussion board where everyone (regardless of being B.O.D., veteran GM or newbie GM's) can express an opinion.
It takes 10 damn minutes or less to submit new lines. It takes two minutes to check scores and your schedule. It takes 60 seconds or less to log in and check messages. This is not a major sacrifice.
And I am tired of hearing about people claiming, "I have a life." Joining the league takes commitment. Period. You can't meet it? Then quit or get bounced.
Be happy that we've got Robert. If it were me, I'd require lines for every game and log-ins to the portal at least every time before your next scheduled game. Messages and articles are bonuses, but responding to emails and trade offers are a must.
Again, people need to accept responsibility or get out. The only suggestion I might make is to be sure that newbies clearly know the requirements and expectations before they join, and that they know what actions (or lack of action) will lead to expulsion. Then Robert can bounce anyone who fails to meet the requirements.
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Re: Major changes in the IHL « Result #9 Today at 8:25am »
As I stated above, yes I agree that the BOD needs to be more involved in league matters, I mean why was it created if not to deal with matters as such? Yes the final word is Rob's but we need our imput as well.
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Re: Major changes in the IHL « Result #11 Yesterday at 11:31pm »
Chris I agree with you most of the time bud but this is Rob's league not the B.O.D's so he does what he feels is the right thing. Rob is fair in asking for lines to be sent in every so often, if for no other reason then to rest your starter, also I don't know of many teams this season that have excaped the injury bug so you'd have to send in lines in those cases. Furthermore it should be imperative that each GM writes a quarterly team report which of course would count for activity points. I think Rob needs to do is sit down (via chat )with his B.O.D and talk over the fine points of the IHL (maybe at season's end) so we don't have ANY grey area in these matters. This would give us a reason to have a B.O.D.
Re: Major changes in the IHL « Result #13 Yesterday at 6:42pm »
Amen.
The day the IHL sends me a cheque, it will become my job. Until then, things come up, contact to specific GM's who are on the cutting block would be good. I agree that Rob has said this many times, but that just goes to further my point. You've spoken before, so now it's time to "set an example". This winds up usually going unfair against someone.
I have had some time to digest this, where I've stayed quiet, and contemplated, but this just isn't right at all. Do we need to have a daily checkpoint that everyone has to talk in, in order to be "active"? You've made your stand, Robert, but we had better stand by it, COMPLETELY, from here on out then.
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Re: Phaneuf deal « Result #14 Yesterday at 4:23pm »
Anyway, the trade will be settle soon enough as I have find a way in which the Sens GM will receive more, and my salary cap will be okay. Just need the Sens GM to accept, what he will probably do, the trade being even more fair.
Well, I may not of been very active but my team was doing great(Florida) that is the reason that I was noit doing much with the team, also I am in school and busy so if i can't get on for a day or two then this is second to my real life....
Will Rutt
I don't think a .500 team is DOING VERY GREAT. When you don't submit lines to me that means you don't have time for the league. Plain and simple.
And admitting that you were not very active tells me something as well.
We all have lives outside the sim hockey world.
I work full time, have wife & 2 kids and still find time to sim each night. So the "I'm busy with school/work" etc does not hold up.
Everyone here has a life, but why can most at least send in lines once a week, You have sent in a measly 2 sets of lines all season.
Be a man and admit you did not have the time anymore to take care of the team properly and let's just end this subject.
Re: Major changes in the IHL « Result #17 Yesterday at 3:34pm »
Well, I may not of been very active but my team was doing great(Florida) that is the reason that I was noit doing much with the team, also I am in school and busy so if i can't get on for a day or two then this is second to my real life....
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Re: Major changes in the IHL « Result #18 Yesterday at 2:33pm »
They all received the same e-mail the league did advising that those 3 GM's were fired.
I did not send out individual ones as i felt there was no need. Whether some of those GM's were logged in or not over the last few days meant nothing to me as i have had to do their rosters and lines due to injury & suspensions. Again it's not my job to run those teams.
The last league e-mail i had sent basically said if you were not active you were going to be replaced.
And what's the point of contacting a GM to say your not being active only to be replied that, yes i am still interested in the league, to then just still do nothing with your rosters. GM's have all had a chance or 2 or 3. After having to sign players to be able to sim i felt is was time to cut them loose.
And some more cuts are coming as i have had trouble in the last 2 weeks were i could not sim because teams have too many injuries and not enough players to fill those spots.
Once i have Anahiem taken care of expect there to be a team or 2 open up.
Re: Major changes in the IHL « Result #19 Yesterday at 2:11pm »
Im not trying to restart something here but I have been wondering the last few days how all this just came about. Was there an e-mail sent to the 3 gms letting them know they were on the bridge? Something on the lines as you have 24 or 48 hours to get lines in or your fired. I only ask because I had been talking to panthers gm the day he got fired. I know you are tired of senting e-mails to the league letting them know to send lines ,but if an e-mail was not sent to letthe fired know u better start doing something then where does that leave the rest of the gms? Hope i am not causing more problems
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Re: Phaneuf deal « Result #20 Yesterday at 8:37am »
Again, unless a trade is really out there i do not stand in the way of a trade. Each GM values players differently.
Now if the offer was something like Phaneuf for a 7th round pick then i might step in and double check what's up.
In this case Phaneuf is not getting traded from chump change. And if i void the trade then i am controling how teams function. The only hold up now has to do with the salary cap. Once that issue is taken care of the trade will go through.
Once again, the same issues come up, and the same people think that they have a say. If the two General Managers have agreed to the deal, then it's fair game. Whether any of us think a deal is fair or not is mainly irrelevant, as long as both General Managers are happy with the additions to THEIR team, the issue is closed, far as I see...
There are always underlying reasons as to why trades are made, and just like when one goes down in the NHL, we always jump to say one side won. Instead, you have to trust what each GM is thinking in their own personal "war room" and decisions they have made regarding their teams. A deal that looks lopsided may eventually turn out to build a cup for the team rebuilding.
Anthony,
Valid points, as usual.
However, we are missing several "reality" factors in our IHL world that a GM must answer to in the real world ... the press, the owners, the fans, the coaches and the team.
We all have a stake in this league, and God only knows that my actions have gotten me tossed to the piranhas in this little swimming hole ... guys who live to take a big bite out of anybody who twitches the wrong way.
However, that is why we have a Commissioner. I ain't trying to smooch Robert's booty, but I have to say that he is fair and consistent. He also listens to us. It's a small concession to make when we are lucky to have someone who manages things as well as he does.
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Re: Phaneuf deal « Result #23 on Dec 4, 2009, 1:38pm »
I just want to add a commentary. I know that a lot of GMs in this league only look at the present. They make trade which help them today, but didn't seem to understand much how the future is gonna be. Some people seems to underestimate the Sens GM. If you look at his current roster, he is looking like someone who send away his best players and in fact he do. He do have traded Phaneuf and Alfredsson away. But what most of you haven't realized is how much smart this GM is. He knew he would not be able to win with the team he had. So, he decided to rebuild. And when you look at how many prospects, picks, and very good young unestablished players he has on his team, you know it's a matter of time before he will have a dominating team. It sure Svensson, Petrecki, Orlov, Robak, Josefson, etc. won't be rated before two or three years. But in three years, he has so many good young players, his team will just be unbeatable.
So, maybe you think Dion Phaneuf is a god and seeing the Sens GM receive only prospects, you think it's a bad deal....but in fact, it will become a really good deal in three years..... when Svensson will compete for the Calder with a 60 pts season, Orlov will have solid numbers in the AHL, and White will have the kind of season he is already having.....a 40 pts season...... As I said.....I still think I have a little advantage on this deal, but for sure it's not "not right".
NB: To say a trade is not equal.... that's okay......it mean you are against an act. But to say to a GM he is "not right", this is a direct attack to his reputation.
Re: Phaneuf deal « Result #24 on Dec 4, 2009, 1:03pm »
Once again, the same issues come up, and the same people think that they have a say. If the two General Managers have agreed to the deal, then it's fair game. Whether any of us think a deal is fair or not is mainly irrelevant, as long as both General Managers are happy with the additions to THEIR team, the issue is closed, far as I see...
There are always underlying reasons as to why trades are made, and just like when one goes down in the NHL, we always jump to say one side won. Instead, you have to trust what each GM is thinking in their own personal "war room" and decisions they have made regarding their teams. A deal that looks lopsided may eventually turn out to build a cup for the team rebuilding.
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